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[209.85.210.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s128sm196222oia.4.2020.02.20.13.38.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f47.google.com with SMTP id i6so109804otr.7; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:38:40 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:13ca:: with SMTP id e10mr25690238otq.267.1582234719808; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:38:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <20200220154101.GA53326@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <1d1cb3e8-ee64-41a7-ac5c-919d3985bd57@malikania.fr> In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 22:38:27 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: Per Hedeland Cc: Ed Maste , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48Nnyq4lXRz3H8B X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=J7NN2CQT; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::241) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[1.4.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.29)[ip: (2.14), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.89), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:38:45 -0000 On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:30 PM Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2020-02-20 19:50, Ed Maste wrote: > > Modern laptops need an I2C touchpad driver, which isn't in the base > > system yet. It's now available in the ports collection and can be > > built standalone fairly easily; it works fine on my Lenovo X1 Carbon > > 7th generation. > > I'd be very interested in that - can you provide a more specific > pointer than "in the ports collection"?:-) +1 for Touchpad / Trackpad support hint.. in a perfect world I would love to see this working out of the box :-) I have a Panasonic Toughbook CF-MX4 with Synaptics Touchpad. Various gestures works out of the box on Linux and Windoze (including two finger scroll horizontal and vertical, pan, zoom, rotate, etc). On FreeBSD I did not manage to make it work neither with hw.psm.synaptics (seems like protocol out-of-sync), x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics (the same problem as with psm protocol error), nor x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev :-( After working on MacBookPro Trackpad I do not imagine working without trackpad gestures anymore. Scrollbars are auto-hiding now and it really distracts to search and click-to-scroll (its so 90's). I only use mouse for CAD when really necessary.. I did not have this problem on any other laptop, usually at least two finger scroll worked with psm (but still not with the Apple's Trackpad quality). Best regards :-) Tomek ps/2: +1 for Bluetooth connectivity, preferably A2DP sound streaming to a bluetooth speaker, I saw other folks also find it useful :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info