From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 4 09:32:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE0E1065673 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990868FC1B for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so990653wwb.13 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:32:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N6VOrhRzOHrRvTkyM8/0mSUniH/RVtgdWlUxJ8W/72M=; b=DDvSLQ2ZzfqRba9bAo5eb1/2nWQ+TuYHstMjf4qNu9GeTkjEIeAgEIVmL7D6wOzeu8 IL94z6u9NCLWez825oC8tR5ySz3T+bcUc3DM8t/D/fH8qMLI9R6QoOcOrTH4XYrlDnd0 Ayw3f+5TX/s/8PRLGKeaf9jhJ3uft4g34mxZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W6oGJXcPXwztTHMmFE3PEbGLs/c8gcJEuTCX8ZZlbdPPbZdFOXIgA5vkKEfhnz/oEn sIlayQhTJtzS523d597ST3smWRv+QpcjzUEefg5ldwhFYSCpQWhZNpPFcd7FU6RLPOsy x+iY9M3ELncLhnb++iamKwUIonDN7eDXSvfqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.13 with SMTP id f13mr10370358wbv.179.1275643921092; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.51.78 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 02:32:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C08BEDC.7010807@icyb.net.ua> References: <4C08BEDC.7010807@icyb.net.ua> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:32:01 +0400 Message-ID: From: pluknet To: Andriy Gapon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:32:09 -0000 On 4 June 2010 12:52, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 04/06/2010 11:13 b. f. said the following: >> Mark Linimon wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:18:41PM +0200, Alban Hertroys wrote: >>>> Compiler bugs in gcc are probably just as hard to find as compiler bug= s >>>> in clang >>> There are two types of compiler bug: a) bug that produces bad code; b) >>> bug that makes the compiler crash. >>> >> >> Let's remember that the entire toolchain is important here, and not >> just the compiler. =A0Some of the problems can be attributed to our old >> binutils. >> >>> For comparison, bitrot that is probably due to older ports not keeping >>> up with compiler changes is at: >>> >>> http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portsconcordanceforbuilderror.py?build_erro= r=3Dgcc4_error >>> >> >> How did you obtain "gcc4-errors"? >> >> We're not alone here: some major GNU/Linux distributions, NetBSD, and >> DragonFlyBSD are using newer versions of binutils and/or gcc, so we >> can look at their patches and error logs to fix some problems. > > DragonFlyBSD and NetBSD use newer GCC? > This is the first time I hear about that. > No doubt about major Linux distributions, though. > AFAIK, NetBSD does it for quite a while since they have a different pov on = this. http://www.thejemreport.com/content/view/317 --=20 wbr, pluknet