Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 09:37:52 +0200 From: Emanuel Haupt <ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Cc: Dave Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kmod driver incompatibilities with 11.1R created packages used on 11.2R Message-ID: <20180724093752.c1c53f93f633d4d9e3a28dd7@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1vQWnuSwy8jYc6N7Xz%2By9U1p82P4fkuxuydXhQywmMHwA@mail.gmail.com> References: <1532338787.2290524.1449626008.703FB1D7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <CAN6yY1vQWnuSwy8jYc6N7Xz%2By9U1p82P4fkuxuydXhQywmMHwA@mail.gmail.com>
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Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Dave Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at> > wrote: > > > We've probably all seen the problems that non-developer users have > > run into with the various packages that have a dependency on kernel > > versions, when using the official pkg.freebsd.org built versions. > > > > We know that the problem will go away as soon as 11.1R is EOL end > > September, but in the interim I can imagine this must be really > > frustrating for people who don't have a familiarity with building > > from sources. Is there anything we can do to help them? they're > > often newcomers to FreeBSD so their new user experience is crap. > > > > Here's a few ideas, but there may be better ones: > > > > - put a note in pkg-message informing users of the issue and a link > > to a forums.freebsd.org post on how to build it manually > > - add something to the port's pkg-install script to only display > > that message on < 11.2R kernels > > - provide an alternative pkg repo so they don't have to build from > > source (possibly community supported) > > > > I'm specifically thinking of x11/nvidia-driver here but there are > > presumably other packages impacted from > > https://www.freshports.org/kld/ > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup > > > > A+ > > Dave > > > > The only other case I have seen reported (and reported frequently) is > emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod. It is particularly nasty in that For me it's also x11/nvidia-driver and multimedia/cuse4bsd-kmod. I used to lock (pkg lock ...) the packages during the transition time. Now I am lucky enough to have my own build server where I build specifically on 11.2 I agree that this is not a satisfactory solution for our users. Emanuel
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