From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 19:45:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A02D106564A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC058FC12 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so141648hsh.11 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:45:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0+NgVpECk3aR85y0H47J9XsaGCNJT6MIqq3dZcd7FB0=; b=MtCZQdHFOK7VwjDZRw510/5qLYuwhAYFx4+sndWx2fZ4/jZYPrhF7/O6ccvPEUOSaG AXEBBM+TvjNUMJuuZod4R9iOjY0fXFt9GXmCK18eAuVIOo/U+5tJobe42KV2qW0i4QPY GBs7nonsCPH1qM9jGd9QxTUXL9WjHafz8edr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=H21/joZbKBi9ma3kTTMjXioMaZlsOlukpaqwIN4cn5Q0PSBRsWvmHcGG4Hpsdow42y HnSQK5yxAm2mV/m35/WEUO+NZJB7inwY3l9eZs0A9cOR+gqzLyQo+3NA1JJf0Oiqe/zn 2tAKtnCGCwFycr+Sl9xosMDJaPqC8DuFAZQeA= Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr311668agb.60.1218656707481; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.65.9 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20808131245h2ceb17abt1671ef36c35f9996@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:45:07 -0400 From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <539c60b90808131225u156aa566id7df0b4ef68f638e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20808130917k2ddc8a3aj54edd9fe79c83788@mail.gmail.com> <200808131406.05129.lists@jnielsen.net> <80f4f2b20808131120t7a1245d8t4b01506c0f0818ba@mail.gmail.com> <20080813191640.GA11361@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <539c60b90808131225u156aa566id7df0b4ef68f638e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ATi & Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:45:09 -0000 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > I suppose it's naive to think that some tool like portupgrade could be > bent to build all the depends with -m32 as well? I guess you'd wind > up with a bunch of things you didn't want as 32-bit (i.e. XOrg?) being > re-installed as 32bit, right? I don't suppose there's any > infrastructure for simultaneously installing two versions of a port > (one of the reasons BSD doesn't crash as much as win32, no doubt, and > that we don't usually have .dll/.so hell)...still I might settle for a > 32-bit X if I could have 64-bit disk & network still... > > Steve > Jail. I suspect I could build the base system plus X and copy everything over to a jailed dir. Once there, I could set -m32 in the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS of the system make.conf. Build WINE in the jail, add a /usr/local... bin32, lib32 and libexec32 to the main (non-jail) part of the OS, and copy everything there. Then update the path and libpath for my system... OK, not simple, but it'll be an interesting experiment. *Jeremy Clarkson* What could /possibly/ go wrong? Not really had the issues you mentioned in Windows in the last few years, but I still prefer FreeBSD - the KDE and Gnome user interfaces (desktop management) are just much more efficient for getting work done (for me anyway) than that of Windows, and I can have a lot more control over my system. -Jim Stapleton