From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 8 13:29: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-201-166.mmcable.com [65.31.201.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BEB437B405 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 45235 invoked by uid 100); 8 Dec 2001 21:28:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15378.34330.534792.537249@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:28:58 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: , Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. In-Reply-To: <025d01c17fcc$4c8783d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <000b01c17f42$c23ab140$0a0 0000a@atkielski.com> <3C110351.4748B559@duth.gr> <005001c17f6c$e60c0ef0$ 0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15377.17350.796336.801464@guru.mired.org> <006901c17f70$19a2f820$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3C11560B.A035DEF3@duth.gr> <009401c17f9c$5bad3bf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <010601c17fab$1cd2b270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <016f01c17fb4$b3c1fc00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <01e401c17fbe$0f0ae2d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <025d01c17fcc$4c8783d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.42/Python 2.1.1 (freebsd4) From: "Mike Meyer" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anthony Atkielski types: > I can also make general statements about fruits that remain valid even > though there may be specific exceptions. In logic, such a statement is called a "false generalization". Any proof that attempts to use it is flawed. In particular, trying to apply the false generalization to a specific example is a major blunder, unless you can show that the exceptions don't apply to that example. By disallowing further information in your hypothetical situation, you've also made it impossible to discover whether or not this example is an exception to the false generalization. That makes all decisions equally valid. So Terry's suggestion of an etch-a-sketch is as correct as my suggestion of a Proptronics box (17" monitor, deskside cpu, keyboard and laser printer for < $100!) is as correct as the solution you desire. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message