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Date:      Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:07:36 +0100
From:      RW <list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Please do not use spamcop to block email
Message-ID:  <200610210207.38367.list-freebsd-2004@morbius.sent.com>
In-Reply-To: <4539661C.1040003@joeholden.co.uk>
References:  <20061020214004.BFXX23386.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <4539661C.1040003@joeholden.co.uk>

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On Saturday 21 October 2006 01:13, Joe Holden wrote:
> Bo Briggs wrote:
> > I received this, and
> >
> > Reason: Service unavailable; Client host [205.152.59.64] blocked using
> > bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see
> > http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?205.152.59.64
> >
> > this is the bellsouth.net mail server.
> >
> > I respect the rdnsbl's, but please use spamcop as a filter, use
> > cbl.abuseat.org if you want accurate results. Anyone can place an IP on a
> > blacklist with a couple of reports to spamcop, and as I remember, it
> > takes 24 hours before the block is in place.
> >
> > I've run a few mail servers before, and I do use the rdnsbl's, but
> > spamcop is only used as a filter.
> >
> > Please reconsider using this as an absolute block.
>
> Valid points, however you should be asking your isp why they're on there
> in the first place.  I know its not as simple as that as I run several
> mail clusters myself, but its not the responsibility of mailing lists to
> ensure mail isn't blocked from what is listed in the rbl's.

Well, should they be blocking with a list that's intended for scoring 
purposes?

> Alternative 
> is to use your own mailserver, and not a widely abused isp mailserver.

He can't really win. The normal advice these days is to relay though a 
smarthost to avoid dynamic address blocklists, which are considerably less 
aggressive than spamcop. 



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