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Date:      Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:19:06 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Sean Chittenden <sean@chittenden.org>, "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>, Calvin NG <calvinng@brel.com>, Sean Chittenden <sean-freebsd-stable@chittenden.org>, Jeff Kletsky <Jeff+freebsd@wagsky.com>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: pkg_version perl hacker project
Message-ID:  <15079.16202.48073.928253@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010425200506.C39540@mail.webmonster.de>
References:  <20010423231827.A19530@rand.tgd.net> <20010424142340.E5216@brel.com> <20010424014833.B19530@rand.tgd.net> <20010424120052.H89156@xor.obsecurity.org> <200104241907.f3OJ7u103414@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010424123517.A90547@xor.obsecurity.org> <2001@=> <20010424134637.A10180@rand.tgd.net> <20010425023146.B54713@xor.obsecurity.org> <15078.58981.52059.986092@guru.mired.org> <20010425200506.C39540@mail.webmonster.de>

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Karsten W. Rohrbach <karsten@rohrbach.de> types:
> Mike Meyer(mwm@mired.org)@2001.04.25 09:59:49 +0000:
> > If the FTP site uses some obscure mechanism like accounts, that might
> > be a problem. But I don't think that's the case here.
> every ftp site uses some obscure mechanism like accounts. normally the
> account is ftp or anonymous and due to the session management in ftp

Those are user names, and are sent to the FTP server with the USER
command. I'm talking about *accounts*, which are sent to the FTP
server with the ACCT command. The only servers I've encountered that
used them were running on IBM mainframes. Since Unix doesn't provide
an account mechanism distinct from user, I wouldn't be surprised if a
Unix scripting language doesn't have support for this feature of the
FTP protocol.

> sessions the connections live too long, mostly, and therefor the
> resource you are requesting might be unavailable very often due to
> session count and login limitations. therefor ftp is pretty crappy to
> fetch small files (eg. <100k).

That, of course, is a perfectly valid reason for moving things from an
FTP server to an HTTP server. It's different from the one I replied to
- which may well not be the one the author I was replying to meant.

	<mike
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