From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 20 1: 0:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC92F37B422; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25611; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:00:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Laurence Berland , Bill Fumerola , clefevre@citeweb.net, Akbar , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wats so special about freeBSD? References: <89731E9AF92BD411869200D0B71BB4DC0FC297@ASERVER> <200009191942.e8JJgMc03338@gits.dyndns.org> <20000920001652.U66839@jade.chc-chimes.com> <39C83CC6.9BCD1F32@confusion.net> <20000919221242.O367@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 20 Sep 2000 10:00:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Crist J . Clark"'s message of "Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:12:42 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Crist J . Clark" writes: > No, you are not. You partially answered your own question. OpenBSD is > considered more secure because, > > (a) "They have done the big code audit." (You got that one.) > (b) They ship a secure default. > > Not FreeBSD, nor any other open source OS I am aware of, has done > (a). FreeBSD sacrifices (b) for having some stuff work "out of the > box." FreeBSD has done a lot more of (a) than you might think, and guess what, Our People found some holes Their People hadn't spotted. So a code audit is better than no code audit, but it's not a silver bullet. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message