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From: "Thordur Ivar B." <thib@mi.is>
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:41:42 -0400 (EDT)
Matt Piechota <piechota@argolis.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Thordur Ivar B. wrote:
> 
> > Yes ofcourse you will need to trust your own toolchain and compiler (I keep
> > "trusted" binarys on CD to use in cases like this. (And for post-mortem
> > inspection.)
> 
> I'm curious, where do the "trusted" binaries come from?  In theory, 
> the FreeBSD build machine could have been hacked a long time ago and the 
> hack keeps propagating.
> 
> -- 
> Matt Piechota

Note the "" around trusted. There is no way (besieds manually going through the
entire src-tree to be sure that the sources are "trust worthy" but I have the
highest confident of the administrative personnel wich keep's the source safe
and the machines uncomprimised and the developers in general.

If I did not "trust" them I would simply shutdown my machines, remove the caples
and throw it out the window.

My $0.05


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