From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 19 13:37:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1911065695 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 13:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0808FC1C for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 13:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4JDb7nK024820; Tue, 19 May 2009 15:37:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4JDb74d024819; Tue, 19 May 2009 15:37:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:37:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200905191337.n4JDb74d024819@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200905151738.n4FHcm5u029947@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 May 2009 15:37:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD jobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:37:34 -0000 Julian Stacey wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > [[ moved thread to -chat ]] > > I already subsequently wrote to Achim: on hackers@ This is completely off-topic on hackers@. > > You'r right on adults & free choice, I'll drop that rather than drift. > > I will stick to commitment & discuss that no further on hackers or chat. > > > What I was trying to illustrate is what jobs@ censors pass & block. > > That's on hackers@. chat@ is for off topic non FreeBSD related. I'm afraid that's not correct. Basically, the chat@ list is for everything that would be off-topic on the other lists. That includes FreeBSD-related topics as well as non FreeBSD-related topics. The FreeBSD Handbook says: "For free-form discussion on no particular topic, the FreeBSD chat mailing list is freely available and should be used instead." > FreeBSD censorship is FreeBSD related. You mean moderation, not censorship. The jobs@ list is a perfect example of a list that requires moderation. In fact, this whole thread confirms that point. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identi- fied by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language." -- Donald E. Knuth, 1974