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From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" <kaleb@x.org>
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> : Chuck, think a moment here.  What *technology* to implement ELF
> : executables was used by SVR4?  Is it the same technology we have
> : available to us?  No.  Then what?  The GNU stuff.  Has the GNU
> : stuff been speaking ELF for long?  No.  I rest my case.
> 
> The GNU stuff has been generating ELF for at least four years, maybe
> five now.  The cygnus "everybody chip in and we'll port to Solaris
> fiasco" was in my tenure at Solbourne as a Test Engineer which started
> around April 1990.  I believe they had a release within a year.
> 
> The Linux project is a little bit hozed because their library/compiler
> maintainer isn't as careful as he needs to be.  That's one of the
> things that made the ELF stuff such a nightmare....
> 
> That said, I'd only be keen on ELF so that Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD,
> Unixware and the like can all run the same binaries :-).
> 
> Warner
> 

I'm keen on ELF so that I don't have to compile everything in a library
twice to get shared libraries. I'd also be keen to get rid of ldconfig 
and ld.so.cache. (Am I only doing this because I've never questioned the
shared-lib build rules we were given for X11?)

Before Jolitz, et al, disappeared off the face of the earth he and his
members-only club were working on ELF for shared libs. I guess this
didn't make it into the fraud-ware 386BSD 1.0 CD-ROM, eh?

--

Kaleb KEITHLEY