From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 17 05:07:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8821134322F for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 05:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpg.telissant.net (smtpg.telissant.net [104.225.1.73]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mtNy3K8Yz4J76 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 05:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from sacada.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49mtNr3W1Yz1lvZS for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpg.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by sacada.3dresearch.com (sacada.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08pginaV34DK for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elettra.3dresearch.com (unknown [71.112.245.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: elettra@sacada.3dresearch.com) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49mtNr0Y4Yz1lvPh for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bufftemp.3dresearch.com (unknown [10.61.70.200]) by elettra.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6F533D870 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bufftemp.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bufftemp.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7640EDC9CC for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:07:35 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd Message-Id: <20200617010735.fb8bde55636bad3bb1bc8ccb@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616092901.000002f7@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mtNy3K8Yz4J76 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of web@3dresearch.com designates 104.225.1.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=web@3dresearch.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.04 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.846]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ENVFROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[3dresearch.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.32)[-0.321]; FROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:104.225.1.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.112.245.218:received] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 05:07:47 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:45:54 +0200 Chris Knipe wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:35 PM Aryeh Friedman > wrote: > [...] > > > > > We are talking about > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html#idp44832888 > > It would -seem- to me (personally at least), the majority is kept > back to cater for the minority. [...] > > [...] > > No my friend, it is your CHOICE to be stuck in the stone age... [...] Minority vs. majority and stone age vs. modern... no. What you fail to consider is that when you join a list/forum/community, which has posted rules/guidelines/etiquette, it is only good manners that newcomers follow those rules/guidelines/etiquette. You are certainly welcome to propose and argue for changes. And if you are on the losing side of the argument, nothing is preventing you from starting a list/forum/community where your rules/guidelines/etiquette must be adhered too. -- Janos Dohanics