From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 11:13:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D0BFDE78 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46blF83MBVz4g90 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id 3so11504612qta.1 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:13:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WuJCvwf7n1SwPWKOKqgeaws1tuQWAINj6Yg6847JS6M=; b=WNb8Q9Cky/b01kJGeRNWCaO02P7S118twwzME74Src1VRIWDdZOKiIZAKcDMZiwqTb iak88mTzxTZCvl4MEHo0/B25fCH5G0MLmZ2U4T+j6bsaAATgVvi6s0VFsDM+lX15eQ+2 AAzplQnfEnnORL+ejap8zmkOCI1b8RLbw3Gto86D3Ulyss6o3c0Wb8ukGAJgjUoCPL4R 0RDLly0oQ5xWoAj7K0Ve4mt298ZTUH8ZGkekqwnyZGcP5gxnslkoVEkc8hInBEf75Mgv iEUFrE7uxCOKrmnKRtBSU2umqkUsaYlFcu8w5s1zRe3p8tspwZCZerBnOd8SY/M7oArE YZ+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WuJCvwf7n1SwPWKOKqgeaws1tuQWAINj6Yg6847JS6M=; b=W8XvteGAFeSgXi7123e927saQ4Lz1SPRe6EcdxDO3TANgopA0FziyJJqkwJDp0tcs6 4m+fruLlKdqv+CzkTbFb0LFxBy6ye8HRisxYaWwBoL7e3Iy79wZxM+YJz6ougxrkmkZX aFF4fYmhXC5EtYZfI5xqS8KZkntFOFQ5l9mC4vStqdrbcipna1e6Ut4VQqgTpS1sFMDh whSFnyK/V0pf4FBA1LzU0skhHYswGimBxFAWC56466cD97g+iZ0i8XEkSBv8O1FTyM3m t7KKc8t7mi+sKnWuFOsDx4I5t7aUaY8bJxWY7B1HT85Np54V5gA0KrSwt/a7UT6aeRak Xsuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW2QsY+ODSWXd6Jzz7EKNp4o0kSA1lJbi5o1w3H78tpYfNDNWWU VuO+CQWEI9AHBrS5t0/ooGhHouV5bXhIc4zqlYUNmg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwoUMCWT0gtnn+AOLqmarXajb/RhKFe0CyBpRIqd+y8FYUQbAMZd8KzBYsK4eqB21ppxa4lnHxm5OWihKM1+2k= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3564:: with SMTP id z33mr12302054qtb.291.1569150811218; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:13:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190922051624.4a628733@dismail.de> <20190922102528.63ab9df0@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:13:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: llvm90 -why To: Jan Beich Cc: Vasily Postnicov , FreeBSD X11 mailing list , FreeBSD X11 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46blF83MBVz4g90 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=WNb8Q9Ck; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::835) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.86 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-x11@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.86)[ip: (-9.39), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-2.20), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:13:33 -0000 On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM Jan Beich wrote: > Vasily Postnicov writes: > > > =D0=B2=D1=81, 22 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B3., 13:25 ajtiM vi= a freebsd-x11 < > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>: > > > >> On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 12:22:21 +0200 > >> Jan Beich wrote: > >> > >> > ajtiM via freebsd-x11 writes: > >> > > >> > > Hi! > >> > > > >> > > Mesa-dri is updated and needs llvm90. It is okay. But libosmesa > >> > > needs llvm80. Now I have llvm60, llvm80 and llvm90 and and each on= e > >> > > needs a lot of time to build. > >> > > > >> > > pkg info -r llvm80 > >> > > llvm80-8.0.1.: > >> > > libosmesa > >> > > >> > I didn't notice, and poudriere doesn't catch such issues. > >> > Fixed in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/512572 > >> > >> Thank you. > > > > What's worse, lang/clover was not updated and still seems to require > > llvm80, but devel/libclc now depends on llvm90. This breaks OpenCL on a= md > > cards completely > > lang/clover doesn't build with llvm90, see > https://reviews.freebsd.org/P294 > I'm relying on users' feedback as the maintainer didn't help test bug > 239682. > > Can you document OpenCL error for posterity? > The week before quarterly branch is the wrong time to do changes like this, especially since there's now collateral damage that needs to be mopped up by many other people who have not planned the time for the work. This is quite disrespectful of their time and boarders on abuse. Please consider this more carefully in the future. You do good technical work, but failing to manage the social aspects of it is causing too much friction of the kind that (a) can be avoided and (b) tends to drive people away (hence my abuse comment). Thank you. Warner