From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 10 03:25:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECED6106566C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FB58FC0A; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 72C478C074; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:25:27 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20090310032527.GA24125@lonesome.com> References: <200903091922.n29JMjLR035306@svn.freebsd.org> <20090309194338.GA48593@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090309195805.GA53225@citylink.fud.org.nz> <20090309222705.GA49870@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090310013810.GC22633@lonesome.com> <20090310021926.GA51405@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090310021926.GA51405@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Stanislav Sedov , svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Andrew Thompson Subject: Re: svn commit: r189594 - head X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:25:28 -0000 On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 07:19:26PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > Ed gave a month or more headsup that a new TTY layer was coming. He > enumerated the drivers that were broken and actively solicited people > with the affected hardware for help. He furthermore helped those > people fix as many driver as possible before committing the new TTY > layer. As part of portmgr, you know Ed also actively fixed many ports > broken by the new TTY layer and/or helped others fix the ports before > the new layer became standard. Yes, and I would like to thank Ed for this and hold him up as a model for how things ought to be done. My own approach is to do that rather than be critical. > If you and others take off your rose colored glasses, you'll see > that the USB2 transition could have been handled better. I already agreed that it could have been, so you're just putting words in my mouth at this point. Given the amount of work Andrew put in on this, I don't really feel like kicking him around. All that would do is demotivate the next person who picks up a rather large and thankless task. mcl