From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 12 17:16:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E3214E53 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joerg@xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz) Received: from lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.12]) by xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08796; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:20 +1200 (NZST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id MAA29640; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:18 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:17 +1200 From: Joerg Micheel To: Mike Smith Cc: John-Mark Gurney , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: the new config and booting Message-ID: <19990513121617.B25283@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <19990512165906.57576@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199905130006.RAA02337@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199905130006.RAA02337@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 05:06:03PM -0700 Organization: SCMS, The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND - Waikato Applied Network Dynamics, DAG Operating-System: ... drained by Solaris 7 SPARC Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike, On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 05:06:03PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > well, I wonder if other people have noticed this also, but if you don't > > have a previous boot loader installed (like windows/dos) the ONLY way > > to install onto a machine is TO use a dangerously dedicated mode... > > This is quite untrue. I do a lot of installs to virgin systems on a > wide range of hardware, and I haven't encountered any situations where > DD has been necessary in a long time. OTOH, I have met many where DD > would be fatal. Virgin systems is not virgin disks. If you buy a complete PC, this bootloader from Redmonton is already on the disk. I had similiar problems a while back and unless someone has explicitely looked after this, it still persits. Just my 2 Pfennige, Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Waikato Applied Network Dynamics Phone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, SCMS Fax: +64 7 8384155 Private Bag 3105 Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message