Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:11:24 +0100 From: Damian Hamill <damian@cablenet.net> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: freebsd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People Message-ID: <33730650.446B9B3D@cablenet.net> References: <16755.863158760@time.cdrom.com>
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Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > [interesting tome from Jordan about spamming deleted] As an ISP I would take part in any scheme to make life difficult for spammers and I would not knowingly take their business. I agree with Jordan that a) government (any government) won't even realise there is a problem, much less do anything about it until way too late b) co-operation and self regulation are our best options I was instrumental in the setting up of ISPA in the UK and I firmly believe that such organisations can co-operate together to provide information and assistance to allow ISPs to tackle this problem. The UK has the advantage that it has a single organisation that is recognised by the governemt/media etc. as the representative organisation for the industry. For example I would be prepared to block email and net traffic from named spammer domains or networks hosting spammers. Ideally I would like to setup a process to automatically download a list of said domains and networks from say vix.com or freebsd.org. I would want to redirect web traffic to a page explaining why it was blocked and probably listing blocked doamin/networks. I would also accept a list of personal details about spammers and refuse accounts to those people. However I would much rather do this as a measure recommended by my national ISP association rather than unilateraly. I would also like the whole thing to be automatic so once setup the the lists of blocked domain/networks/people would be updated automatically. Just my thoughts.. > But first and before any of this can happen, the ISPs need to grow up > and stop trying to poke eachother in the eyes with sticks and start > cooperating. Sadly, my perception of about 80% of the ISP market is > that they wouldn't paddle on the same side of the boat if they needed > to do so in order to escape an approaching tsunami, preferring instead > to drown rather than give eachother the time of day. > > That's not only sad, but if spammers take over the internet and break > it as a reasonable medium, it will be *solely* through poor business > practices (and even less ethics) like this, and the ISPs will be > squarely to blame for opening the gates to the barbarian hordes in > exchange for a piece of the action on their raping and pillaging. Yes Jordan .... you can calm down now. :-) regards damian -- * PIAB - PoP In A Box - the total solution for ISPs, with more features * than a Constable landscape, and very cheap too!! * http://www.cablenet.net/cablenet/popinabox/ * Damian Hamill damian@cablenet.net
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