From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 7 21:16:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361F9106564A; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86E28FC08; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-128-232-132-170.eduroam.csx.cam.ac.uk (dhcp-128-232-132-170.eduroam.csx.cam.ac.uk [128.232.132.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D77625D3878; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:16:55 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> References: <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 21:16:58 -0000 On 3. Jul 2012, at 12:39 , Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Doug Barton writes: >> The correct solution to this problem is to remove BIND from the base >> altogether, but I have no energy for all the whinging that would = happen >> if I tried (again) to do that. >=20 > I don't think there will be as much whinging as you expect. Times = have > changed. >=20 > I'm willing to import and maintain unbound (BSD-licensed validating, > recursive, and caching DNS resolver) if you remove BIND. I'd object to it. Trading one for another without gaining anything does not help us much. Don't get me wrong I have both running for years and even maintain = patches for unbound for 2 years now for functionality they do not provide, which named happily gives me. If you want to do this, I would prefer a properly laid out action plan as the import is by far the easiest but the integration into various parts of the system is harder. /bz --=20 Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! It does not matter how good you are. It matters what good you do!