From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Sep 3 10:02:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CF8E033F5; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 10:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from theravensnest.org (xvm-110-62.dc2.ghst.net [46.226.110.62]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "theravensnest.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DEC265C97; Sun, 3 Sep 2017 10:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (host86-138-54-151.range86-138.btcentralplus.com [86.138.54.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id v83A2A1Q057278 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Sep 2017 10:02:11 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: d60e724c-75b0-4b63-9702-f4a9d2bf6793: Host host86-138-54-151.range86-138.btcentralplus.com [86.138.54.151] claimed to be [192.168.1.65] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [RFC] future of drm1 in base From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <201709030531.v835VNEt023765@slippy.cwsent.com> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 11:02:07 +0100 Cc: Johannes M Dieterich , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <288500A4-AF22-465D-AAE7-794BEED3A5E5@FreeBSD.org> References: <201709030531.v835VNEt023765@slippy.cwsent.com> To: Cy Schubert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2017 10:02:16 -0000 On 3 Sep 2017, at 06:31, Cy Schubert wrote: >=20 > Thanks for the heads up Johannes. I currently have three machines that = each=20 > run ATI r128, mach64 and the last one an mga card. I normally use my = i945=20 > and i915 laptops (mostly the former) but on occasion I may fire up X = on one=20 > of the other three. Having a drm-legacy port in the tree would benefit = to=20 > me. It=E2=80=99s been quite a while since I used any of these (though much = of the list is very familiar), but the last machine I ran with a mach64 = card was faster with the vesa driver than with the =E2=80=98accelerated=E2= =80=99 driver (as I recall, it was a 500MHz Pentium III). I suspect the = real question is not whether people have machines that use these cards, = but whether they do anything with them where they=E2=80=99d notice the = lack of acceleration. David