From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 16 22: 3:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 099B537B407 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from agn_nair@yahoo.com) Received: from cc403125-a.jrsycty1.nj.home.com (HELO cc403125a) (65.2.181.122) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 05:03:14 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <01a901c10e7d$d0703540$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> From: "A. G. Nair" To: , Subject: FreeBSD and OnTrack DDO Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 01:03:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C10E5C.43472280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C10E5C.43472280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've sent a mail earlier with the same problem but didn't get any = reply... So trying again with a more specific version of the problem. = I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my machine (laptop) which has = OnTrack DDO(Dynamic Drive Overlay) installed on the hard drive. I tried = all kinds of combinations at the boot prompt but it always says -- Not ufs Not ufs No /boot/loader The documentation says FreeBSD is compatible with DDO, but I'm unable to = make it work. Also in the archives I've found 2 or 3 questions regarding = this but no answers. So I think, this has to be a bug unless someone can = tell me otherwise.=20 My situation is as described below-- I've a new blank 20GB hard drive installed on my laptop. Since it's = blank and there is no data, I get to re-partition, re-format and play = around with all combinations. I'm trying to get just FreeBSD(nothing = else is in the hard drive except DOS) work with DDO. I need DDO because = my BIOS won't recognize beyond 8.4GB of the hard-drive (I've the latest = version of BIOS installed). I am not going beyond the 1024th cylinder. = The whole FreeBSD partition is well below the 1024 cylinder limit. The = disk geometry reported by FreeBSD fdisk is same as the one reported by = Partition Manager. So no problem there also. Or is there something else? = I also tried Boot-Easy, OS-BS and XOSL as boot manager. No luck. If I remove DDO and boot, FreeBSD sees the full 20GB. So ideally, I = don't need to use DDO if I am using just FreeBSD. But unfortunately I = also need to install Windows on the machine. So I've to find a way to = get FreeBSD to exist with DDO and the documentation says it is = compatible.=20 I've almost given up all hope on making this work. (I tried Red Hat = Linux and I've to tell you, it's much worse than this. It doesn't even = install.) Does anyone have any experience in getting FreeBSD installed = and a working on a hard drive with DDO?? There must be someone out = there, who has worked on this part of the installer.... Maybe He/She can = tell why this is not a bug. Am I missing something??? Please please = reply and let me know. Any suggestions will be a great help...... Thanks in advance, AGNair PS:=20 This is how FreeBSD fdisk looks FDisk Disk name: ad0 Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads =3D 39070080 = Sectors(19077MB) Offset Size(KB) End Name PType = Desc Subtype Flags -63 63 62 - = 6 unused 0 =20 63 7528 15119 ad0s1 2 = fat 6 =20 15120 3084480 6184079 ad0s2 3 = freebsd 165 C 6184080 16442968 39070016 - 6 = unused 0 View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as below: Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2583 cylinders x 240 heads x 63 sectors ] Using LBA # Type Row File System Type Starting[CHS] = Ending[CHS] Partition Size[KB] 0 MBR Master Boot Record 0x0x1 = 0x0x1 0 1 Pri Unused 0x0x2 = 0x0x63 31 2 Pri 1 DOS FAT-16 0x1x1 = 0x239x63 7,528 3 >Pri 2 FreeBSD, BSD/386 1x0x1 = 408x239x63 3,084,480 4 Pri Unused 409x0x1 = 2583x238x63 16,442,968 ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C10E5C.43472280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I've sent a mail earlier with the same problem = but didn't=20 get any reply... So trying again with a more specific version of = the=20 problem. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my machine (laptop) which = has=20 OnTrack DDO(Dynamic Drive Overlay) installed on the hard drive. I tried = all=20 kinds of combinations at the boot prompt but it always says = --
Not ufs
Not ufs
No /boot/loader
 
 
The documentation says FreeBSD is compatible with = DDO, but I'm=20 unable to make it work. Also in the archives I've found 2 or 3 questions = regarding this but no answers. So I think, this has to be a bug = unless=20 someone can tell me otherwise.
 
My situation is as described below--
 
I've a new blank 20GB hard drive installed on my = laptop. Since=20 it's blank and there is no data, I get to re-partition, re-format = and play=20 around with all combinations. I'm trying to get just FreeBSD(nothing = else is in=20 the hard drive except DOS) work with DDO. I need DDO because my = BIOS won't=20 recognize beyond 8.4GB of the hard-drive (I've the latest version = of=20 BIOS installed). I am not going beyond the 1024th cylinder. The = whole=20 FreeBSD partition is well below the 1024 cylinder limit. The disk = geometry=20 reported by FreeBSD fdisk is same as the one reported by Partition = Manager. So=20 no problem there also. Or is there something else? I also tried = Boot-Easy, OS-BS=20 and XOSL as boot manager. No luck.
 
If I remove DDO and boot, FreeBSD sees the full = 20GB. So=20 ideally, I don't need to use DDO if I am using just FreeBSD. But=20 unfortunately I also need to install Windows on the machine. So I've to = find a=20 way to get FreeBSD to exist with DDO and the documentation says it is=20 compatible.
 
I've almost given up all hope on making this work. = (I tried=20 Red Hat Linux and I've to tell you, it's much worse than this. It = doesn't even=20 install.) Does anyone have any experience in getting FreeBSD installed = and a=20 working on a hard drive with DDO?? There must be someone out = there,=20 who has worked on this part of the installer.... Maybe He/She can tell = why this=20 is not a bug. Am I missing something??? Please please reply and let = me=20 know. Any suggestions will be a great help......
 
Thanks in advance,
AGNair
 
PS:
This is how FreeBSD fdisk looks
 
FDisk
Disk name: ad0
Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads =3D 39070080=20 Sectors(19077MB)
 
Offset        =20 Size(KB)       End   =20              = Name      PType    =20 Desc           =20 Subtype    Flags
-63          &= nbsp;  =20 63            = ;        62   &nbs= p;            = ; =20 -       =20        =20 6            =   unused          = 0            =    =20    
63          &n= bsp;    7528       = ;        15119   &= nbsp;      =20 ad0s1      =20 2            =   fat         &nbs= p;        =20 6            =
15120       =20 3084480        6184079  = ;    =20 ad0s2       3    &= nbsp;        =20 freebsd          165&nb= sp;           C
6184080    16442968   =20 39070016      -    &nbs= p;           =20 6            =   unused         &= nbsp;0
 
 
View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as = below:
 
Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2583 cylinders x 240 heads x 63 = sectors=20 ]
Using LBA
 
#    Type    = Row    File=20 System Type       =20 Starting[CHS]     Ending[CHS]   &= nbsp;       =20 Partition Size[KB]
0   =20 MBR           &nbs= p;  =20 Master Boot Record    0x0x1    =    =20            =20 0x0x1           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; 0
1   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;      =20 Unused           &= nbsp;           &n= bsp; =20 0x0x2           &n= bsp;       0x0x63   &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;       31
2   =20 Pri        1   &nb= sp;   =20 DOS=20 FAT-16           &= nbsp;    =20 0x1x1           &n= bsp;        0x239x63  &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   7,528
3  >Pri       &n= bsp;2       =20 FreeBSD,=20 BSD/386     1x0x1     &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  408x239x63        = ;      3,084,480
4   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;      Unused     = ;            =           409x0x1 =             &= nbsp; 2583x238x63        &nb= sp;  =20 16,442,968
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