From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Apr 20 15:09:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4782FB16240 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28B301B3D for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-10-248-116-179.eduroam.wireless.private.cam.ac.uk (global-5-143.nat-2.net.cam.ac.uk [131.111.5.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u3KF8vZ5030150 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:08:58 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: theravensnest.org: Host global-5-143.nat-2.net.cam.ac.uk [131.111.5.143] claimed to be dhcp-10-248-116-179.eduroam.wireless.private.cam.ac.uk Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_21B2E831-4953-4AE7-9783-9056CCD8C6B9"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <0C8A7C64-8D7C-4B2D-9387-294FBF049941@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:08:52 +0100 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-Id: <36608F1A-E677-49D5-BE5C-E2BC031DC945@FreeBSD.org> References: <0C8A7C64-8D7C-4B2D-9387-294FBF049941@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: Paul Mather X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:09:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_21B2E831-4953-4AE7-9783-9056CCD8C6B9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 20 Apr 2016, at 15:53, Paul Mather wrote: >=20 > Arguably, a packaged base will make it easier to help people, because = it makes more explicit the dependencies of different parts of the = system. It's been my experience that the interactions and impact of the = various /etc/src.conf settings are not entirely well known, at least to = end-users. In particular, with libxo output from pkg, we can get a machine-readable = detailed dump of all of the base system packages installed and provide a = single =E2=80=98system dump=E2=80=99 command that includes this, = relevant information from dmesg, and so on for bug triaging. 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