From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 16:49:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728FD16A4D0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CC143D64 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:49:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D18DB9B2; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:48:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40934-09; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:48:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCEFB805; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:48:42 -0500 (CDT) To: Matthew Seaman References: <40CE8CB9.9050504@synthexp.net> <20040615131601.GA32001@millerlite.local.mark-and-erika.com> <20040615134621.GA91079@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:48:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20040615134621.GA91079@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 2004 14:46:21 +0100") Message-ID: <877ju84vj1.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detaching program from controlling terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:49:58 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2004-06-15T13:46:21Z, Matthew Seaman w= rites: > The fact that sysadmins generally don't know users' passwords, and have no > practical means of finding them out if the user doesn't want them to know > what it is. Install and play with "john". It was enlightening for me. > Since the sysadmin doesn't know what the users' password is on the systems > he admins, the user can safely use the same password on other systems with > different admins. For the sake of clarity, is that your belief, or are you explaining what other peoples' opinions? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAzyhq5sRg+Y0CpvERApc3AJ9h389pxQcltvz/UhWB1UG0WCGnLQCfbPAR La1ZKMqOUYA+PPEr2D8PLzw= =z06O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--