From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Mar 10 16:47:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648CD14C3B for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-22.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.22]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA17536 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:47:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA14287 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:47:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199903110047.SAA14287@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: 3.1-STABLE: nrsa0 T4000 doesn't honor "no rewind"? SCSI errs in logs In-reply-to: Message from Matthew Jacob of "Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:23:42 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:47:34 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > Taking the point of view of an application writer (I worked at Legato- the > mmd code I worked on supported 30 different platforms- a large fraction of > which *weren't* Unix) I'd also probably pick #1- because I would be > writing an application that doesn't want the tape driver to get in the way > and *I'll* manage data integrity. But in general, Unix user applications > that do backups don't manage data integrity, or manage it poorly. So, I'm > a little unsure as to the right choice- that's why I asked for opinions, > and I hope to see more of them than yours, Tom. But thanks for it all the > same- it was quite informative. Lets do the right thing. If the applications such as dump, tar, pax, and tcopy are broken, then lets fix them. No point in fixing dd. While *I* often write tapes with dd, when I do I want it to blow up and fail on error. Then maybe I'll try it again on the same tape, or throw the tape away and use a new one. Then again, I'm not filling one tape and desiring to continue on another. Hmm. That reminds me that I haven't send-pr'ed some patches for tcopy teaching it how to know the difference between a file and a device, and to use that information to "rewind" a file (for "tcopy -c"). -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message