From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 13 15:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01653 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01623 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22808; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:55:06 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA04952; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:54:55 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980214095454.51602@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 09:54:54 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: sbabkin@dcn.att.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, semen@iclub.nsu.ru Subject: Re: Sony SDT-7000 Tape won't write 4Gig References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from sbabkin@dcn.att.com on Fri, Feb 13, 1998 at 09:49:09AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 13 February 1998 at 9:49:09 -0500, sbabkin@dcn.att.com wrote: > >> ---------- >> From: Ustimenko Semen[SMTP:semen@iclub.nsu.ru] >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 11 February 1998 at 19:51:36 +0600, Ustimenko Semen wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> I have got Sony SDT-1700 device, but i can't get it work:( >> >> As a wrote - it is SDT-7000 realy:) >> > By the way, I can share some experience from using DDS. As I've > found there are two major manufacturers of DDS drives: Sony and > HP. From others I saw ARCHIVE (?) Viper in ICLs and it is so bad > that it does not deserve any discussion, they can not survive > even 2 weeks of operation. This presumably demonstrates the usefulness of ICLs. As I have frequently reported on this list, I had nothing but trouble with HP DDS-1 drives. I had 4 of them, and they lived between 5 and 8 months. That changed when I got an HP DDS-2 drive, which lasted over a year. I've been using an Archive changer now for 15 months, and haven't had any trouble (although I'm beginning to wonder if the original topic isn't biting me too: I'm only getting 2.7 GB on a 90m tape, too much for no compression and very little for compression). > HP uses OEM Sony drives in their cheap DDS devices designated for > PCs, and own HP drives in RISC servers. The latest are more expensive > (twice?) but a lot better. This is news to me. Which model numbers? > The problem with Sony drives is that even with extensive use of > cleaning cartridges at some point (like 150-200 full tape backups, > with cleaning after each other backup) they come to the point when > use of cleaning tape in any amount can't stop the 'need cleaning' > light from blinking. Disassembling and cleaning up them manually > helps but only for something like 5 full tape backups. HP drives > have no such problem, they live a lot longer, and it takes very many > backups together with very few cleanings to kill them (yes, I saw > dead one, peoples have used it for half a year without any > cleaning). I did that once on my first DDS-1 drive--it came without instructions, and nobody knew it needed cleaning. It didn't do any better or any worse than the other ones, which I *did* clean. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message