From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 18 11:47:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECBC37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (papagena.rockefeller.edu [129.85.41.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D37843E65 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@papagena.rockefeller.edu) Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by papagena.rockefeller.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8IIlmF05330; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:47:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:47:47 -0400 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Dave Hayes Cc: Terry Lambert , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stolen BSD code found in Linux kernel Message-ID: <20020918144747.J4623@papagena.rockefeller.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200209181755.g8IHtW116519@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.9-12smp i686 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Hayes wrote: > >> >> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html > >> >> > >> >> That says it all, to me. [...] > These statistics aren't wildly inaccurate, just inaccurate. There's > some information there. There's a relationship there. That does not "say it all." I'm willing to believe the statistics are totally accurate, in the sense that those particular machines do indeed have those particular uptimes. The point is, it would be moronic to base any sort of decision on those statistics, given (a) the information they leave out (as their own disclaimer points out), (b) the systems they can't handle at all (again, as their own disclaimer points out) (c) the fact that the sysadmins involved apparently never upgrade their software -- many of those machines seem to be running antique versions of Apache with known security holes. (Possibly they've patched the holes without upgrading. Then again, possibly not.) There are lots of very good reasons to advocate BSD. This uptime list isn't one. - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message