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Date:      Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:19:05 +0200
From:      tuexen@freebsd.org
To:        "Scheffenegger, Richard" <Richard.Scheffenegger@netapp.com>
Cc:        Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>, Youssef GHORBAL <youssef.ghorbal@pasteur.fr>, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: NFS Mount Hangs
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> On 10. Apr 2021, at 11:19, Scheffenegger, Richard =
<Richard.Scheffenegger@netapp.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Rick,
>=20
>> Well, I have some good news and some bad news (the bad is mostly for =
Richard).
>>=20
>> The only message logged is:
>> tcpflags 0x4<RST>; tcp_do_segment: Timestamp missing, segment =
processed normally
>>=20
>> But...the RST battle no longer occurs. Just one RST that works and =
then the SYN gets SYN,ACK'd by the FreeBSD end and off it goes...
>>=20
>> So, what is different?
>>=20
>> r367492 is reverted from the FreeBSD server.
>> I did the revert because I think it might be what otis@ hang is being =
caused by. (In his case, the Recv-Q grows on the socket for the stuck =
Linux client, while others work.
>>=20
>> Why does reverting fix this?
>> My only guess is that the krpc gets the upcall right away and sees a =
EPIPE when it does soreceive()->results in soshutdown(SHUT_WR).
>=20
> With r367492 you don't get the upcall with the same error state? Or =
you don't get an error on a write() call, when there should be one?
My understanding is that he needs this error indication when calling =
shutdown().
>=20
> =46rom what you describe, this is on writes, isn't it? (I'm asking, at =
the original problem that was fixed with r367492, occurs in the read =
path (draining of ths so_rcv buffer in the upcall right away, which =
subsequently influences the ACK sent by the stack).
>=20
> I only added the so_snd buffer after some discussion, if the WAKESOR =
shouldn't have a symmetric equivalent on WAKESOW....
>=20
> Thus a partial backout (leaving the WAKESOR part inside, but reverting =
the WAKESOW part) would still fix my initial problem about erraneous =
DSACKs (which can also lead to extremely poor performance with Linux =
clients), but possible address this issue...
>=20
> Can you perhaps take MAIN and apply https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29690 =
for the revert only on the so_snd upcall?
Since the release of 13.0 is almost done, can we try to fix the issue =
instead of reverting the commit?
>=20
> If this doesn't help, some major surgery will be necessary to prevent =
NFS sessions with SACK enabled, to transmit DSACKs...
My understanding is that the problem is related to getting a local error =
indication after
receiving a RST segment too late or not at all.

Best regards
Michael
>=20
>=20
>> I know from a printf that this happened, but whether it caused the =
RST battle to not happen, I don't know.
>>=20
>> I can put r367492 back in and do more testing if you'd like, but I =
think it probably needs to be reverted?
>=20
> Please, I don't quite understand why the exact timing of the upcall =
would be that critical here...
>=20
> A comparison of the soxxx calls and errors between the "good" and the =
"bad" would be perfect. I don't know if this is easy to do though, as =
these calls appear to be scattered all around the RPC / NFS source =
paths.
>=20
>> This does not explain the original hung Linux client problem, but =
does shed light on the RST war I could create by doing a network =
partitioning.
>>=20
>> rick
>=20
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