From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 07:02:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650CB16A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mandarin.fruitsalad.org (pc117.net160.koping.net [81.16.160.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D193443D2F for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@fruitsalad.org) Received: from [192.168.15.6] (helo=[192.168.15.6]) by mandarin.fruitsalad.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1BfCds-000BvU-Af; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:02:56 +0200 From: Matt Douhan Organization: fruitsalad.org To: David Magda Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:02:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406281403.i5SE3SwS089871@lurza.secnetix.de> <200406281706.11188.matt@fruitsalad.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406290902.47494.matt@fruitsalad.org> cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximum uptime 497 days? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:58 -0000 On Tuesday 29 June 2004 00.37, David Magda wrote: > On Jun 28, 2004, at 11:06, Matt Douhan wrote: > > why ? > > > > they may not be public machines at all and be isolated to an > > environment where > > security is not the primary concern > > Have you not seen the SSH exploit in "The Matrix Reload"?!?! :> How do > you know some evil-doer wouldn't use an exploit from an internal > system? Heck, Slammer nailed a couple of networks (e.g., ATM) that were > supposedly secure in protected networks. No telling how a worm may jump > fire/airwalls. fairly easily, the systems in question is not connected to any firewalls nor does it have any outside connectivity, no modems, no serial cables no nothing, it is simply connected to a mainline pruction line and runs software that controls that system, single machine with no network at all, ssh is even disabled. The point being that sometimes uptime is more important than security in some instances. rgds Matt