From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Apr 28 22:21:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EE0158BE22 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.70]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gromit.dlib.vt.edu", Issuer "Chumby Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5B2C800BC for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from mather.gromit23.net (c-98-244-101-97.hsd1.va.comcast.net [98.244.101.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFB681A8; Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:21:31 -0400 Cc: FreeBSD Stable Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <15583041-1D56-44BE-8E88-ECC11C935A09@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> To: kris@ixsystems.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B5B2C800BC X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=vt.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.73 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.26)[ip: (-3.25), ipnet: 128.173.0.0/16(-1.62), asn: 1312(-1.36), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[vt.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[chumby.dlib.vt.edu,gromit.dlib.vt.edu]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[97.101.244.98.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1312, ipnet:128.173.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:21:39 -0000 On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, wrote: > FreeBSD Community, > > > > I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and > 13-current > using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock FreeBSD images which > will allow users to perform all updating via the 'pkg' command directly. > Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement, we've > created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this page, and let us > know if you have additional questions that we can include on that page > going > forward. I currently keep my FreeBSD/arm and FreeBSD/arm64 systems up to date via PkgBase in FreeBSD 12. It works well for me (crossbuilding and hosting the PkgBase repository on a FreeBSD/amd64 system). What is the difference between the above CFT-created PkgBase and one created via "make packages" using the native build system (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase)? Looking at the FAQ you linked (https://trueos.github.io/pkgbase-docs/), it seems the above CFT system is less granular than the one currently produced via the in-tree "make packages" (which could be a good thing from a simplicity standpoint). Is there anything else? Is the above CFT-produced packages the system that will ultimately become the way packaged base is produced in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, or is it just an alternative you want people to try out and evaluate? I guess I'm not clear what "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base means. :-) Cheers, Paul.