From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Sep 9 14:46:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CC53D2AF4 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x331.google.com (mail-ot1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::331]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BmlGR5gt9z4Lgl for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-x331.google.com with SMTP id a2so2471585otr.11 for ; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=O/DlVStYlNH5bWdxGq16EYQKM+8hPa78m9EzNDxmaDI=; b=LyhcHCrlbRYWGFWhzpu9e5i4oAY381QDKNNHnL01FOJluuaLqLNuEJ0UNyOXElzsp6 S3aDMpsf4d64bzyvUb8s+Rok0Ao+tyvI3CWgKG1I2ToetH2ssCQPbXHj3LSI9OHGJOup 4fuvckXBi+kOunCyOsApaVq5zYDfwFRRrR3xZBdeln8UFY4ty3cj8FzgmWj585NecHj2 kXcwMTHmwg5xwA2eAKj0Mg+tbrKwetRZgKAAitTGpOfnmyuxvkfaHTe+w3WCX3EG54zl MrVlMzgkTJSjHq1dfIvtSIpj3aPgmet8lsTsJRk75nZIg1A8TSvJQdtOW6SOQMWDaMNR XImQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ODTvArJ58yN0ijuXOmMDDIChUTWrkPMFIufoHLx1ZnmPZOQM+ vLftpL8Ggwqqq/pQKvYDRaEL5sJLCJqW3k54XAU9NMEGvBMs/A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxMOXcTIE5l12SJz2c+aiHRDnCFq/MXw2kKHA8n4xQWTf/gqQm9Uz1V8tTpyfCeOovp+ev/fHbH9d3FuEnXHdw= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:128f:: with SMTP id g15mr941339otg.93.1599662814293; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:46:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5f58a7e7.1c69fb81.8666b.c9d6SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5f58a7e7.1c69fb81.8666b.c9d6SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 07:46:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelock on recent current To: FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BmlGR5gt9z4Lgl X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.53 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.023]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.013]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::331:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.21)[0.211]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 14:46:56 -0000 On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 3:01 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I am seeing a problem since I moved to current on my laptop this week. > It's > > odd as it is linked to the keyboard. As long as the keyboard is active, > > everything is fine, but if the keyboard is not used, after a few minutes, > > it locks up and gets very hot. The system may be busy or idle. The system > > seems completely locked. It does not respond in the network and the > > display, X or just vt is frozen. The only factor is use of the keyboard. > > > I'm not sure what information I might collect. > > > The system is a ThinkPad L15 with 4GN of DRAMM (more on order) . > > FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #2 r365481M: Tue Sep 8 20:16:02 PDT 2020 > > root@ptavv:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 > > FreeBSD ptavv 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #2 r365481M: Tue Sep 8 > 20:16:02 PDT 2020 > > root@ptavv:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG > amd64 > > Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU (Crystal Lake) > > > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > > Overheating, maybe? > > I can see CPU temperature with "envstat" (NetBSD) or > sysctl -a | grep "temperature" (FreeBSD) : > don't know how Linux does it. > > Is there any way you could run > sysctl -a | grep "temperature" > at one- or two-minute intervals, perhaps on a different virtual terminal? > > I've heard of laptops getting hot, but that was not specifically connected > to keyboard inactivity. > > Tom > On FreeBSD on Intel, just load coretemp.ko and it's in dev.cpu.?.temperature, where ? is the CPU. When running my desktop, I have it continuously displayed with the gkrellm2 system display. Since it will fail when the system is idle, I don't think it gets hot until after the lock-up, but I'll confirm it when I get back to that system later today. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683