From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 30 20:57:39 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA20342 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:57:39 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20336 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:57:35 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA21422; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:56:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA20539; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:58:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199508310358.UAA20539@corbin.Root.COM> To: Nate Williams cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/disktab and stuff In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Aug 95 21:32:13 MDT." <199508310332.VAA26359@rocky.sri.MT.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:58:21 -0700 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk (Jordan said:) >Funny. Someone, who's name I'll refrain from mentioning here, was >just musing to me the other day that maybe we should just SKIP 2.1 and >go to 2.2.. :-) That was me. I was joking of course, but there was a small element of truth. (Nate said:) >clean it up. If the FreeBSD 2.1 release sucks the big one, then it >sucks the big one. Hollering at them isn't going to change their mind >about what they are doing. We've all been doing this long enough to >know the consequences of bad decisions. > >Finally, what is coming up is *NOT* the 2.1 release, but a 2.1-SNAP. >I'd rather see the code in the tree so it can be tested in the SNAP for >a longer period of time than to see if take 30 more days to get in and >have a crappy install for 2.1. Yes, and I apologize for the 2.1 tree brokeness that Rod has complained about. This is the product of a large amount of effort to get all the changes in before the snapshot. It's very important that as many changes as possible that we want to be in the release be in the next snapshot. We are trying to get this release out the door, and dribbling in the changes will only delay it by months more. ...and I'm still not done yet. I have to finish up the userland and then return to merging kernel stuff. There are a pile of important fixes in -current that must be in the release, and I haven't hardly touched the 2.1 kernel yet. Anyway, I have too much to do and no time to argue about this. I intend to strike a balance between stability, features, and release schedule. The emphasis will be on stability, followed by release schedule, and features last. I will make an effort to bring in improvements (fixes or features) if I think they would make 2.1 a better release...so to those who want 2.1 to be a release with "meat", don't worry, it'll will be plenty "meaty". :-) -DG