From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 12 17:37:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C9114C9B for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02533; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905130034.RAA02533@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joerg Micheel Cc: Mike Smith , John-Mark Gurney , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the new config and booting In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:17 +1200." <19990513121617.B25283@cs.waikato.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:34:36 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 05:06:03PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > well, I wonder if other people have noticed this also, but if you don't > > > have a previous boot loader installed (like windows/dos) the ONLY way > > > to install onto a machine is TO use a dangerously dedicated mode... > > > > This is quite untrue. I do a lot of installs to virgin systems on a > > wide range of hardware, and I haven't encountered any situations where > > DD has been necessary in a long time. OTOH, I have met many where DD > > would be fatal. > > Virgin systems is not virgin disks. If you buy a complete PC, this > bootloader from Redmonton is already on the disk. I had similiar > problems a while back and unless someone has explicitely looked > after this, it still persits. I am not a complete idiot, and when I say "virgin" system, I mean it. I'm quite aware of your problem. I outlined several solutions to it in the previous message, and elaborated on them in the handbook update I wrote about DD mode. I'm always looking for better ways of dealing with this problem; DD mode is not one however. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message