From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Dec 17 07:21:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C841331F57 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from fc.opsec.eu (fc.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200:4::4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C03987247; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from pi by fc.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gYnDw-0003Al-Bs; Mon, 17 Dec 2018 08:21:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 08:21:56 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Matthew Macy Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Common Desktop Environment broken when compiling from ports tree on FreeBSD 12 RC3 (May also apply to the final build) Message-ID: <20181217072156.GR25709@fc.opsec.eu> References: <8A726C0B-CF1F-4580-A76D-7D75CAB1CA49@sbcglobal.net> <20181217071039.GF63752@home.opsec.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 07:21:58 -0000 Hi! > > > PPC64 with the advent of Power9 is the only real alternative platform > > > to amd64 in the data center [...] > > I'm curious, isn't arm64 also a contender in this market ? > Supposedly. The FF has invested in it greatly. Nonetheless, none of the > offerings have been very good in practice. That's interesting. Can you elaborate ? Is it the stability of the hardware itself ? Are the hardware offerings too diverse so that the boxes aren't compatible between each other ? Is the performance not sufficient to compete with amd64 ? Are there legal issues like intellectual property or such ? -- pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 2 years to go !