From nobody Fri Nov 4 14:56:35 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N3kH32QbVz4gyhL for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N3kH05MMGz44Cw for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 2A4EuZZB097272 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:56:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=puchar.net; s=default; t=1667573796; bh=XYfCTnS3osCgAx18HrDhSzilct3DTjBrBJMhppBgPqo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=gB+GXaMmXopvUGuMoRUo8XMSm6kGJ8PVNaB0HKRGVzI1ir/kzrSDCOFW7l3jGNTSM iycyXfiB0sNl11m6IRRIBFOESw9PgB6HR+PUraLWXmDTmDeq4KkMJBcZL1ApYhqESO Ldb3eW2EXcXE/9G77d2qKiFUNKB6ElldUNUg0abI= Received: from wojtek.intra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.intra (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 2A4EuZCO026340; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:56:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.intra (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 2A4EuZnI026337; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:56:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.intra: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:56:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: George Mitchell cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crypto Donations (was: Re: What is the status of the FreeBSD development process now?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <93b6c160-966d-d17d-fafa-2fe554b651c2@puchar.net> References: List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N3kH05MMGz44Cw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=puchar.net header.s=default header.b=gB+GXaMm; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wojtek@puchar.net designates 194.1.144.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wojtek@puchar.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[puchar.net:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:43476, ipnet:194.1.144.0/24, country:PL]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[puchar.net:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[puchar.net]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N >> [...] >> Unfortunately FreeBSD still does not >> accept any donations via cryptocurrency. >> Nor has FreeBSD community yet participated in any >> crypto crowd funded code dev/bug/doc etc bounties. >> The world is moving there, others are already making >> good use of them, best get on that, have fun :) > Honestly, this seems to me simply to be good policy on the part of > the foundation (not accepting donations via crypto). There's no > apparent benefit as far as I can see, and the extreme volatility of > all existing cryptocurrencies by itself strikes me as an excellent > reason to continue the current policy. -- George > > Why? Accept and instantly change to something else. Let's clear things up. Crypto currencies are really worth nothing. Just people do believe they are worth something. It represent no real value. Classic currencies are really worth nothing. Just people do believe they are worth something. It represent value equal heat of combustion - if you have papers. Or zero if just in bank. The only difference is that classic currencies are enforced by law. Crypto are not. So you shouldn't differentiate, just then convert to currency or some other good you need. To avoid risks - do it at the day when crypto currency is transferred.