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From: "John Howie" <JHowie@msn.com>
To: "Kris Kennaway" <kris@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>,
	"James Wyatt" <jwyatt@rwsystems.net>,
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Subject: Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:05:44 -0700
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Kris,

Your response is so indicative of the many reasons why so many people do not
volunteer to help out on FreeBSD or any other open-source project. The 'we'
I refer to is the community, of course. However, in FreeBSD the community
seems to be who a few self-designated despots say who its members are, all
others are considered free-loaders and trouble makers.

I have never, in all my years of UNIX experience, seen such in-fighting and
bickering as I have on these lists. Please, do me and everyone else a favor,
and don't reply unless you have something useful or constructive to say. I
think I'll just sit back and become a freeloader.

john...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kris Kennaway" <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To: "John Howie" <JHowie@msn.com>
Cc: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>; "James Wyatt"
<jwyatt@rwsystems.net>; "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>; "Chris D .
Faulhaber" <jedgar@fxp.org>; <chat@freebsd.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: ftpd bug in FreeBSD through at least 3.4


> On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:48:23PM -0700, John Howie wrote:
>
> > don't have time/resources/spare hardware. Maybe if we looked at
supporting
> > past releases we could win some fans in the business community. Until
then
> > we are mostly a bunch of hobbyists. I use FreeBSD, I love FreeBSD, I do
> > upgrade FreeBSD, but I would NEVER recommend FreeBSD as a business
solution.
>
> Who is this "we" you speak of? Ohh, wait, you meant to say "Maybe if
> YOU looked at supporting..." No worries, I was wondering what to do
> with all my time anyway.
>
> </sarcasm>
>
> Kris
>
> --
> In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate.
>     -- Charles Forsythe <forsythe@alum.mit.edu>
>





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