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Date:      Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:04:14 -0600
From:      "Doug Welch" <dougwelch@earthlink.net>
To:        "Peter/Los Angeles, CA" <peter@haloflightleader.net>, "John Hanley" <jh_@yahoo.com>, "Keith J" <kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com>
Cc:        "Tom" <tom@uniserve.com>, <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing
Message-ID:  <001201c18e93$ef95e780$0100a8c0@hole2>
References:  <20011227002248.40200.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> <01cf01c18e6d$59b81420$245b1486@hhlaw.com>

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Sorry to intrude but these are the results of real transfers using : auto
and auto,  then auto and manual




ftp> mget fasttimesatridgemont.avi
local: fasttimesatridgemont.avi remote: fasttimesatridgemont.avi
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'fasttimesatridgemont.avi'
(682295296 bytes).
100%
|***************************************************************************
*******************************|   650 MB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
682295296 bytes received in 126.71 seconds (5.14 MB/s)

$ ifconfig dc0
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.0.25 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        inet6 fe80::220:78ff:fe07:9b15%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        ether 00:20:78:07:9b:15
        media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active

########### Above NIC located on freeBSD 4.5 release workstation

$ ifconfig dc0
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
        status: active
        inet 192.168.0.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        inet6 fe80::220:78ff:fe03:85e8%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1

inet 192.168.0.15 255.255.255.0 NONE media autoselect  <------------- set to
auto

*********** Above NIC located on OpenBSD 3.0 current server

Then on the server side of things....

I edited hostname.dc0 and changed the entry to:
inet 192.168.0.27 255.255.255.0 NONE media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex
<------------set to manual now
Then saved the changes and rebooted.

I did this instead of just changing on the fly for safety sake and a clean
test.

$ ifconfig dc0
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
        media: Ethernet 100baseTX full-duplex  <-----no auto here anymore
        status: active
        inet 192.168.0.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        inet6 fe80::220:78ff:fe03:85e8%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1

********** Above is after reboot I verified /etc/hostname.dc0 was still
reflecting my change..

ftp> prompt
Interactive mode off.
ftp> mget fasttimesatridgemont.avi
local: fasttimesatridgemont.avi remote: fasttimesatridgemont.avi
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'fasttimesatridgemont.avi'
(682295296 bytes).
100%
|***************************************************************************
*******************************|   650 MB    00:00 ETA
226 Transfer complete.
682295296 bytes received in 125.96 seconds (5.17 MB/s)

So...

682295296 bytes received in 126.71 seconds (5.14 MB/s)    << this was both
nics set to auto
682295296 bytes received in 125.96 seconds (5.17 MB/s)    << this was after
manual change of server nic ??????

After two years as a Adm on a broadband network I leaned not to trust any
vendor docs without testing first.
Sorry again, But I am glad Peter's initial issue was solved . Right or wrong
I see no diff here except manual was a fraction faster.
If I am wrong and I am quite frequently or I have miss understood this auto
issue sorry for the spam...
-dw

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter/Los Angeles, CA" <peter@haloflightleader.net>
To: "John Hanley" <jh_@yahoo.com>; "Keith J" <kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com>
Cc: "Tom" <tom@uniserve.com>; <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing


> No!!!  We must continue the revolution!!!  Welcome to the revolution!!!
> AAAAHHH!!!  Auto-neg/Auto-sense should be the only subject in this list
for
> the next 10 years until we resolve this issue.
>
> Continue the fight laddies!!!  Arrgggh!!!  Fight for your right to
> auto-negotiate.
>
>
> Peter
>
> PS
> Was just kidding.  I started this thread, but it was just about a Samba
> problem that didn't even have anything to do with layer 2 devices.
Anyway,
> like I've posted before, the problem was solved, and the culprits were on
> the application layer, not the data link.  No animals were harmed in the
> creation of this email.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hanley" <jh_@yahoo.com>
> To: "Keith J" <kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com>
> Cc: "Tom" <tom@uniserve.com>; <stable@FreeBSD.ORG>;
<freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:22 PM
> Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing
>
>
> > --- Keith J <kjohnso8@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Well gee Tom.... if one end doesn't respond to negotiation... are you
> > > saying the smart end will force a speed or duplex that can't possibly
> > > work?  Lets say I have an old 10Mbs ONLY card... are you declaring
> > > that it gets toasted by auto-negotiate every single time?
> >
> > OK, this is boring.  Debating opinions is occasionally useful,
> > but facts are facts and flamage won't change them.  Please let
> > Cisco have the last word on this topic:
> >
> >   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/46.html
> >
> >   Per the IEEE 802.3u specification, it not possible to manually
> >   configure one link partner for 100 Mbps full-duplex and still
> >   autonegotiate to full-duplex with the other link partner.
> >   Attempting to configure one link partner for 100 Mbps full-duplex
> >   and the other link partner for auto-negotiation will result in a
> >   duplex mismatch.  This is a result of one link partner
auto-negotiating
> >   and not seeing any auto-negotiation parameters from the other link
> >   partner and defaulting to half-duplex.
> >
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