From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 12 14:21:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA28528 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28489 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA09320; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:20:46 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA05347; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:20:45 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA11560; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:12:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199604122112.XAA11560@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Xinside's Motif To: pechter@shell.monmouth.com (Bill/Carolyn Pechter) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:12:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199604121214.IAA18840@shell.monmouth.com> from "Bill/Carolyn Pechter" at Apr 12, 96 08:14:33 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > > > I guess I'm gonna have to send my money to > > > Lazermoon. They have a native FreeBSD port of Motif for $100.00. > > > > Don't do it. It's not really worth the money. In short: it sucks. > > > > Is that the SWIM or the Moo-Tiff rom that sucks... if so -- what problems > have you seen. I just purchased it here... SWiM. It's been a bit ago that i've installed it, so this is from mind: . The installation script has been smashed together lovelessly. It didn't allow for an installation anywhere outside /usr/X386, but in insisted on it. (For good reason: people who've been installing it there reported that their imake templates have been trashed.) There are numerous subtleties that are wrong in the installation, like not checking for the existance of certain directories (or even automagically creating them) before installing the stuff. Our solution? -- Your problem! . The entire package made the assumption that it would be installed under /usr/X386, and failing that, that /usr/X11R6 must be quite the same, and the only solution could be to symlink both. . Nevertheless, their shared mwm hard-referenced something like /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.2.0.1 (the actual number might differ, but it was three-digits, the path was hard-coded, and it didn't point into /usr/X386 like the rest of SWiM). I think there were more subtleties that totally upset me by that time, but i forgot them. I've quickly put the floppies aside, and i'm damned sure that i'll never touch'em again. Their promised CD-ROM never arrived. Since i've also heared the horror stories from other people, i gave up in my original intention to even ask or mail them. I figured it being waste of time. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)