From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 11 06:10:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4021065670 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9998FC17 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34C3D266; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8B6AqNS001556; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:10:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100911081052.d08cc39e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> References: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100910151651.GA29465@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100910234956.GB63239@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 06:10:54 -0000 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:49:56 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > These days, it seems like the only places > people *really* think they still need Java are smartphones and > "enterprise" systems running on overpriced servers -- neither of which > makes a difference for Firefox on the desktop. Let me add another field: There are applicances like "all-in-one DSL modem telephone splitter router DHCP server NAT firewall boxes" that are very common in german households. Those usually use Java to present their control elements to the user; "Applet loading" is often seen when connected to that box in order to change some setting. I think the initial developers found it better to put a Java applet in there than some PHP generated HTML served by a little web server... they could have used an efficient and professional programming language, too, but that's something you won't find in home consumer crap devices. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...