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From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uqs@spoerlein.net>
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Subject: Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years
 to phase the new name in
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On Tue, 22.12.2009 at 11:53:36 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:18:43 -0800
> Xin LI <delphij@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Craig, and hackers, are you both willing to do this?
> > 
> > No.
> > 
> > killall is not part of standard, and, just because System V choose to
> > implement that way, does not warrant that FreeBSD has to.  Moreover,
> > user can always alias /sbin/killall to 'fkill' and 'kill -15 -1' to
> > 'killall' if they really want the System V behavior.
> > 
> 
> I'm wondering why we even need killall when pkill seems to have the same
> basic functionality and is located in /bin (and /rescue) rather than /usr/bin?

Seconded,

people should make it a habit to use pkill or for example pgrep instead
of killall or ps|grep. Way more portable anyway :)

Regards,
Uli