From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 17 18:07:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948D616A480 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCD013C48D for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9HI55Qv051851; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:05:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l9HI55TW051850; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:05:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:05:05 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20071017180505.GA51825@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20071017133352.GE67677@pcjas.obspm.fr> <47161B5D.9050002@pacific.net.sg> <20071017165423.G89276@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <13413b8f0710170920t5e5a03f9tcd703e6239db0296@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why 7.0 is so late ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:07:18 -0000 On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > Gueven Bay wrote: > > > So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_ at this > > moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ? > > I can think of several issues of the top of my head: > > - rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain > circumnstances (my favorite) > - ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load > - Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one > hasn't bit me yet) > > Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to > solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch > around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet. > > There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP > stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details. Thanks. That is useful information. > > The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a > production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved. > > Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still > unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that > (IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that > has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD. No one is arguing against that. All are in favor of waiting until it is ready. There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional guess update. ////jerry