From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 23 19:33:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AE916A41C; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:33:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [83.167.185.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BE343D1D; Mon, 23 May 2005 19:33:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1771A653AD; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23084-01-5; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:31:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from empiric.dek.spc.org (wifi177.icsi.berkeley.edu [192.150.187.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A578653E8; Mon, 23 May 2005 20:31:33 +0100 (BST) Received: by empiric.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 125E76238; Sun, 22 May 2005 03:59:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 03:59:15 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Stephan Uphoff Message-ID: <20050522025914.GD1108@empiric.icir.org> References: <428FC00B.3080909@freebsd.org> <1116729865.1917.92.camel@palm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1116729865.1917.92.camel@palm> Cc: Colin Percival , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Scheduler fixes for hyperthreading X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:33:15 -0000 On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 10:44:25PM -0400, Stephan Uphoff wrote: > Beside benchmarking - is there any other real use for RDTSC ? > Is there any use of RDTSC that system requiring the security cannot live > without? (We could even try to emulate the instruction if we really need > to) A number of ports use RDTSC for high-resolution timing. The most obvious examples being machine emulators mostly used for gaming (UAE and MAME spring to mind, possibly also dosbox and others). I daresay VMware probably uses RDTSC too. BMS