From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 07:22:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4014E106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91248FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4D79CDB6.1080902@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:22:30 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:34 -0000 On 03/11/2011 01=3A10 AM=2C Polytropon wrote=3A =3E On Thu=2C 10 Mar 2011 13=3A46=3A42 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen =3Cb=2Esmeelen= =40ose=2Enl=3E wrote=3A =3E=3E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on= a =3E=3E regular basis=3F =3E=3E Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28appl= ications=29 =3E=3E on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e= =2Eg=2E =3E=3E unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E =3E I would suggest that=2C too=2E Allow me to point out a new =3E perspective of the way of use=3A GUI forces you to work in a =3E linear way and pay extra attention=2E You cannot automate it=2E =3E Depending on what your primary intention is=2C using CLI =3E tools to get rid of =22hands on=22 work may be a better choice=2E =3E This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what =3E you=27re doing=2C but that=27s a main requirement for any =3E administrator=2E =3A-=29 I definitely agree here=2E =3E=3E Webmin is a good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for admin= istering =3E=3E your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can= administer =3E=3E almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E =3E That=27s true=2C but it brings new security risks to the system=2E =3E Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your =3E accessibility to what the browser can do =28and the Webmin =3E can support=29=2C e=2E g=2E you may be faster using a shell with =3E patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting =3E things from a list=2E =3E Agree here too=2E Webmin can be secured and audited very well=2C but still= the more services that are available=2C the greater the security risks will be= =2E Only from the commandline you have all options for configuration of different services available and it=27s the fastest way to do things=2E For graphical oriented users I think that Webmin is a real good solution an= d gives a way to get into the use of the commandline and configuration files= =2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E