From nobody Fri Nov 4 16:16:22 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N3m383HZrz4h89K for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N3m380RtZz3FVX for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 2A4GGMIB051094; Fri, 4 Nov 2022 09:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2022 09:16:22 -0700 From: Chris To: Wojciech Puchar Cc: George Mitchell , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crypto Donations In-Reply-To: <93b6c160-966d-d17d-fafa-2fe554b651c2@puchar.net> References: <93b6c160-966d-d17d-fafa-2fe554b651c2@puchar.net> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_46431b91701cf5d56b860645d7a28f49" X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N3m380RtZz3FVX X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --=_46431b91701cf5d56b860645d7a28f49 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2022-11-04 07:56, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> [...] >>> Unfortunately FreeBSD still does not >>> accept any donations via cryptocurrency. >>> Nor has FreeBSD community yet participated in any >>> crypto crowd funded code dev/bug/doc etc bounties. >>> The world is moving there, others are already making >>> good use of them, best get on that, have fun :) >> Honestly, this seems to me simply to be good policy on the part of >> the foundation (not accepting donations via crypto). There's no >> apparent benefit as far as I can see, and the extreme volatility of >> all existing cryptocurrencies by itself strikes me as an excellent >> reason to continue the current policy. -- George >> >> > Why? Accept and instantly change to something else. > > Let's clear things up. > > Crypto currencies are really worth nothing. Just people do believe they are > worth > something. It represent no real value. > > Classic currencies are really worth nothing. Just people do believe they are > worth > something. It represent value equal heat of combustion - if you have papers. > Or > zero if just in bank. You're spot on here. In fact it has a name: fiat. IOW it's a *perceived* value. When the US dropped gold and silver certificates back in the 60's. US currency was no longer backed by the gold and silver bullion then stored in Fort Knox. Its actual value was then reduced to no more than the paper it was printed on, or what others *believed* it was worth. You decide. ;-) > > The only difference is that classic currencies are enforced by law. Crypto > are not. > > So you shouldn't differentiate, just then convert to currency or some other > good > you need. 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