From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 8 18:07:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FC106564A for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scoobi_doo@yahoo.com) Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46CFD8FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 17:54:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.42] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 17:54:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1042.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Nov 2011 17:54:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 107769.98953.bm@omp1042.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17925 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2011 17:54:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320774860; bh=NhklzmZOdZ1KZ79f3S94xmbQjLKbDln0eJw7oY+pm7o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w862/OpQKfF5x50tsgAl9HWmsSU+C2nGfKKU7z4aGn42IuILzYvg1U9da2RbGwnZ++DYIUAtAbQVPoYg5SYwBycE4QTUFG/sfpslBXr9BdLCqPDYZn9rEqkSzCprXXHuSF2iZrvc5pmmW1krsapn9kobbZ9RTar67Eq27OR7bos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jPZv5xIVxB9sdS4xl8i4GW3JrVKNaI1TNnVU2XadzlwYPzwvBPIi1ljhCXGK9x1o82X9SvDgDZN+c0Iy5qB84ChFpepo9SQzRW97XqU9XysSPQOxfuC9NLV/Z/xMjSC38RNKjpRfFjYMaIdN8FOKrsz/1kbKHX3x0zE2mJJPsUo=; X-YMail-OSG: quabYaEVM1nF7dCmvSWdDNL9pkZBadM7YntRTYNhoEOFb.M 2OzChwmRStpAB7zvK4ruUL2x2ap3Ps.mkrDkl4eQZfs9qy6Tsoh2mbGsB1P0 MUOzQst3Bv80QlqrMF8xJT66P2laxPcAXKNet6sllqHLvNo.W4y2disKL7UF HJqts03CfN9E9qQ6JfR1IzJCUQUy6p3qkWPHbupcDBdKbfoDjWl94e5sDbry d7H.475y._997YxpwsaHb0ac8rLpHq.GrvUT0mx6wSnLzVqwaK8_XlQy38Yc oR0AD2Bkg7ESPj16gvcP_sYpgaXbxoTftENRvPJlHlxP8w_VdQxoi9i4jF.6 FJ9Qs5.IttZ7dSieoCUOtgreuA.DDxbIvODY1Eus0VWTj_aJklo8E.JiFv2k rANibmA.SWYZ5qOhZ81JVDVN4IpuKrkdZmZVk3vuGGY56 Received: from [64.102.249.6] by web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:54:20 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: Message-ID: <1320774860.10580.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Anthony Jenkins To: Xn Nooby , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Best $1000 Freebsd laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anthony Jenkins List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:07:16 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> From: Xn Nooby =0A> T= o: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org=0A> Cc: =0A> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 = 8:20 AM=0A> Subject: Best $1000 Freebsd laptop?=0A> =0A> I bought a laptop = that has an unsupported video card, so now it is my=0A> "windows laptop".= =A0 I am thinking of getting another to be my =0A> "freebsd=0A> laptop", so= I want to make sure it really works with FreebSD.=A0 I could=0A> probably = spend <$1000 (USD) on one.=A0 I like the look of the Lenovos=0A> but I am u= nfamiliar with all the different models, and have never=0A> bought anything= from their webstore.=A0 I normally buy from Dell or=0A> Amazon, and I neve= r buy used or refurbished (unless its a car!).=0A> =0A> My main requirement= s are having long battery life, opengl graphics,=0A> vtx suppoort (virtuali= zation).=A0 A decent drive (500+GB) and ram (6GB+)=0A> would be nice.=A0 I = can't believe ZFS needs 6GB+ ram, and I am not sure=0A> I would want to get= a lot of ram, just so I could use ZFS.=A0 On the=0A> other hand, I read th= at UFS is getting old.=A0 I would rather use RAM=0A> for running virtual ma= chines.=0A> =0A> I'm scared to death of getting another machine that has an= unsupported=0A> video card (like nvidia optimus), or no VTX.=A0 I want a l= ong lasting=0A> machine that I can travel with, take to work, and not be li= mited by.=0A> My windows laptop is an i3 with VTX, and is a little under-po= wered, so=0A> I am thinking of an i5+.=A0 I don't do a lot of number-crunch= ing, but I=0A> don't want it to be slow, either.=0A> =0A> Any suggestions?= =0A=0AI'm running a fairly old =0A9.0-CURRENT (9.0-CURRENT #7: Wed Aug 17 0= 9:34:34 EDT 2011) on a cheap =0AAcer Aspire 5552-7803 (~$400 USD) with an A= MD Phenom II X4 CPU & the max 8GB RAM installed.=A0 On-board Atheros wi-fi = and suspend/resume work =0Afine, I run VirtualBox VMs and I believe acceler= ated X stuff works...=0A=0AWell maybe not - I'm running KDE4 =0Aand just tr= ied pulling up OpenGL info dialog which crashed my X session.=A0 Other =0Am= inor problems are the box seems to become less stable the more times I =0As= uspend/resume without an intervening reboot, but I consider that a =0Aminor= annoyance.=A0 I also added code to /etc/rc.resume to restart the wireless = network because the suggested 'wpa_cli reassociate' was hit-or-miss.=A0 I h= aven't done any ZFS tuning to limit the amount of =0Amemory ZFS uses, might= do that soon.=A0 I have a ZFS-on-root system.=0A=0AAnthony Jenkins