Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:01:16 -0400 From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) To: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Compression Load on CPU Message-ID: <199605232201.SAA29325@etinc.com>
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>> I'll bet that if you asked 100 people if they'd deal with a crash every 8 or 9 >> months to save $10,000 on a box they'd go for it 98 to 2, and we know >> who 1 of those 2 would be..... > >If the numbers were anything CLOSE to what you are citing here, you'd have a >point. > >They're not, and you know it. I dont know that. > >I've lived in this world for 15 years and built real, no-nonsense commercial >networks the entire time. Reality isn't a dream, or a wish, its reality... > you're only 15 years old? you seem older :-) >I also have no financial stake in this debate or my position in it. That >is, no firm which I own, operate, work for or own stock in wins or loses if >you (or I) am right. Karl, as much as i respect your experience, I've been reading your stuff for "a long time" and one conclusion that is very clear is that you are anything but mainstream. No offense, but you're on the wrong list if you think that theres no limit to the quality/cost issue, particularly when its not clear that there is still a substantial quality advantage with the "big boys". A pentium 133 with 2 T1 ports and 2 ethernets can totally blow the doors off a 2500 series for the same money and add a couple more T1s and it easily matches or outperforms a 4000 series for 1/3 the cost. To say you're not going to consider it because its a PC is pretty '80sish if you ask me. Cisco is just coming out with frame relay congestion management now, for petes sake (when the rest of the world has had it for a year); they're not even a market leader anymore. I just got off the phone with someone whos ISP told them that they'd be paying a substantial "throughput penalty" by running a RISC-based card in their Pentium instead of using a Livingston 56k FR external router. What planet are these guys living on, anyway? And didnt Ascend just acquire morningstar?...I guess they think theres a place for PC routers in the marketplace, why dont you? Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX
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