From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 6 02:07:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0FDE850 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 02:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.egr.msu.edu (gribble.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B048F08 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 02:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gribble (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B0243BB6 for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at egr.msu.edu Received: from mail.egr.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by gribble (gribble.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RH-U4s2HZjjD for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from daemon.localdomain (daemon.egr.msu.edu [35.9.44.65]) by mail.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C8A43BB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by daemon.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 21281) id 6F7915C305; Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400 From: Adam McDougall To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Should we make WITHOUT_LIB32=yes the default for 11-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20140506020706.GP1519@egr.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 02:07:15 -0000 On most amd64 systems I run, I usually set WITHOUT_LIB32=yes in /etc/src.conf because I don't need them. This weekend I did a stock install on an older AMD64 Core 2 Duo minipc and a buildworld of 10-STABLE took almost two hours with LIB32 and CLANG since much of it gets compiled twice. Is it time to deprecate LIB32 in -current for 11-RELEASE? I realize some ports may need it, but I hope that need is waning and we are just spending a lot of compile time by default for little gain. We could save a lot of compile time for a lot of users, and they could still opt-in if needed. Putting it up for discussion, not insisting it should be done. Thanks.