From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Aug 13 10:19:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C6E37B57C for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.89.50]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000813171942.ETQ16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:19:42 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02436; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:19:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:19:38 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hacker v/s cracker Message-ID: <20000813181938.H254@parish> References: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000813201719.A4355@physics.iisc.ernet.in>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 08:17:19PM +0530 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 08:17:19PM +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > What is the freebsd policy on using the word "hacker"? Most > old world "hackers" seem to prefer the term "cracker" for > people who break into systems. FreeBSD has a -hackers list > which is obviously not for vandals, but the security > section of the handbook also refers to people who break in > as "hackers". Is that appropriate? > (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/security-intro.html) > According to the Jargon File: http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/h/hacker.html hacker: n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]... ....8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password hacker', `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is cracker. http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/c/cracker.html cracker: n. One who breaks security on a system. Coined ca. 1985... ....though crackers often like to describe _themselves_ as hackers, most true hackers consider them a separate and lower form of life. > Rahul. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message