From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 26 20:50:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DA81065679; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334A14DE92; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <503A8C17.8050006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:50:31 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120728 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <20120824081543.GB2998@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <50380269.6020003@FreeBSD.org> <20120825000148.GF37867@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <50396113.3080607@cyberleo.net> <20120826122649.GA8995@stack.nl> <20120826125846.GD37534@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <503A6D4B.9070606@FreeBSD.org> <20120826185810.GB42842@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <1346008112.1140.76.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ian Lepore , Baptiste Daroussin , current@freebsd.org, Tjoelker , Steve Wills , CyberLeo Kitsana , ports@freebsd.org, Jilles@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:50:34 -0000 On 08/26/2012 13:35, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, Ian Lepore wrote: > >> On Sun, 2012-08-26 at 20:58 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:39:07AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >>>> On 08/26/2012 05:58, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>> This isn't the security issue I was talking about by having sbin/pkg >>>> pass every command line to local/sbin/pkg. >>>> >>>> You keep saying that you have no objections to changing the name. I am >>>> asking you to do that. I don't care if it is pkg-bootstrap or something >>>> else you like better. But please change the name to not be pkg, and >>>> limit the functionality of the tool to bootstrapping the pkg package. >>>> >>> >>> I received more feedback about keep pkg and changing it to >>> pkg-bootstrap, so what should I do, changing it because you are >>> asking for it? >> >> Would this get better if the bootstrap tool were named pkg and were >> installed on a fresh system at /usr/local/sbin, so that it in effect >> replaces itself with the real thing, and has no need to leave a >> forwarding stub in /usr/sbin ? >> >> Maybe it could rename itself to /usr/local/sbin/pkg-bootstrap as part of >> replacing itself, so that you could re-bootstrap your way out of a >> problem later. > > Ew. But on a similar note, an idea I just had in IRC is to have pkgng > overwrite the base /usr/bin/pkg with a link to /usr/local/bin/pkg. > That effectively removes that binary. We do have precedent for ports > overwriting base with sendmail and openssl. ... and bind, but that's a whole different category of problems. >> Hmmm, might have to be careful that future updates don't replace the >> real thing with a newer bootstrap program. > > Yes. A link could be detected by installworld and not overwritten... > although that's a hack. Like you said above, Ew. :) There really is no need to be so clever here. The bootstrapping issue is going to be a minor annoyance that affects a small percentage of our users. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)