From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 25 9:21:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quarter.csl.sri.com (quarter.csl.sri.com [130.107.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EA237B42A for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gilham@csl.sri.com) Received: from snapdragon.csl.sri.com (snapdragon.csl.sri.com [130.107.19.20]) by quarter.csl.sri.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6PGKpP17165 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:20:51 -0700 Message-Id: <200107251620.f6PGKpP17165@quarter.csl.sri.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! In-Reply-To: Message from Kal Torak of "Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:10:36 +1000." <3B5E70EC.2855F1CB@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:20:51 -0700 From: Fred Gilham Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kai Torak writes: > FreeBSD works great as a desktop O/S!? Sure you have to tweek and > tune it to be a good server or a good desktop, but who actualy > expects an O/S to do exactly what you want "out of the box" without > having to tweek it for that job? For desktop we have all these usb > things and stuff, I mean what more do you want? Examples of what > exactly is wrong would probably help, but since this is just a > great big troll I guess it has no base in reality... A suggestion: post your tweaks. That might help people who want to run FreeBSD on the desktop and stimulate discussion on what are good optimizations for FreeBSD-STABLE. Personally, over time I've found that the desktop is almost always fast enough, and that responsiveness and stability are more important than the speed of any particular operation. At one point I was coming in to work each morning and rebooting my system because I was following CURRENT with SMP and it was REALLY unstable. I didn't enjoy the experience and even backed up to STABLE for a while even though it didn't have SMP at the time. The cheapest, most effective solution for speed problems these days is almost always to buy faster hardware. --- Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." --Jesus of Nazareth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message