From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Apr 24 10:17:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18446 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18441 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA01552; Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:12:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199704241712.KAA01552@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Best way to hook into user logins / logouts ? To: davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 10:12:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, abelits@phobos.illtel.denver.co.us, adrian@staff.psinet.net.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199704240953.TAA05443@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> from "David Nugent" at Apr 24, 97 07:53:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can you suggest a means of starting a session that doesn't involve : > > > > getty > > telnetd > > rlogind/rshd/sshd/etc. > > xdm > > Personally, I think you're confusing "login" (gaining direct > access to a system, or opening and entering a door) with > "authentication" (the locks we put on the doors). > > But, as I said, it all depends on how you define things. The purpose of login is to associate a UNIX credential other than the superuser credential with the child process it exec's. It does some other things as well, which are arguably bogus tty-bound operations that shouldn't be done by login. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.