From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 9 12:32:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BF337B401; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B393943E6E; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0579.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.200.69] helo=mindspring.com) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17zMZG-0001PX-00; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 12:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3DA48404.3E886F85@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 12:31:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Real UNIX history (was: Congrats to Brett Glass for new BSD hist References: <20021009122757.F16730@papagena.rockefeller.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > UNIX was free, too. The consent decree from the Greene decision > > > > on the AT&T antitrust case forbit AT&T from making money from > > > > selling software. > > > > > > That didn't make it free. > > > > No, you;re right. It was the "them not charging for it" that made > > it free. 8-). > > Remind me again -- why was there a flap, across all three BSDs, about > Darren Reed's "no modification" licensing of IP Filter around a year > ago? He never tried to charge for it, did he? What was that fuss > about? I don't understand the relevence of the question. The answer is that intent is part of any contract, and Darren changed the generally understood interpretation of intent for the license he was using, such that local patches were not allowed (effectively rendering it an "Artistic License" equivalent). This was a problem because the ipfilter code was in a security critical area, where an OS which incorporated it would need to" be able to provide timely and accurate fixes to problems. Most OS's had a different idea of "timely" than Darren did. So it became a security issue. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message