From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20: 7:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2203B37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 66-44-66-84.s84.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.66.84] helo=sten.alder.net) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 1662Br-0001fm-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:20 -0500 Received: by sten.alder.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:02 -0500 From: "Bob Hall" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? Message-ID: <20011119230702.D640@starpower.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , questions@freebsd.org References: <60230366@toto.iv> <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:19:22PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:19:22PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > dochawk@psu.edu types: > > David dabbled > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > > > > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > > > > vi at that point is a painic :). > > > At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) > > as I found out the hard way a couple of months ago :) > > vim is on /usr, and if you're hitting single user becuase of a problem > > with /usr, ed is all there is. Fortunately, ed is rather obvious to > > the vi user--I hadn't used it in over 15 years, and did just fine. > > I still use ed regularly. If I'm going to make a one-line change on a > file I know fairly well, vi drawing the full screen is just a waste of > time. I run Xemacs as me for mail, programming, and most other > things. I tend to use vi as root for simple but not trivial > things. For really complex things, I'll edit a copy as me in emacs or > start emacs up. Does that make me trieditorial? > > The article reminded me of a study done at Xerox on editors. They had > one test subject who was something much faster than anyone else, > whereas most others grouped close together, with relatively minor > variations compared to that. Turns out the subject in question was > just typing the correct sequence of commands without worrying about > seeing the results. Hard to beat that. Beat what, the skill or the chutzpa? Bob Hall -- uname -a FreeBSD sten.alder.net 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 23:17:39 E DT 2001 bob@sten.alder.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/STEN0 i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message